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Bear Market Bounce a Sure Thing

By Bill Bonner • October 26th, 2009 • Related Articles • Filed Under

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Bill BonnerBest-selling investment author Bill Bonner is the founder and president of Agora Publishing, one of the world's most successful consumer newsletter companies. Owner of both Fleet Street Publications and MoneyWeek magazine in the UK, he is also author of the free daily e-mail The Daily Reckoning.

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Tags: bear market • bear market bounce • bear market rally • bull market • foreign markets • fund managers • inflation • Morgan Stanley

How much juice is left in this bear market rally?

Since it peaked in 2007, the UK stock market lost 60% of its value. As of yesterday, it had recovered half of what it had lost.

All over the world, the story is about the same. Markets have recovered half or more of what they gave up.

The US is a laggard. While the S&P is up 60%, the Dow isn't yet at the halfway point. Some foreign markets, meanwhile, have 100% + gains.

Fund managers who missed the rally are kicking themselves. They've failed to keep up with the benchmarks.

Even before the market headed up in March we echoed Richard Russell's words: "One of the surest phenomena in the financial world is the bear market bounce," he said. We also guessed that the bounce would go to about half the previous losses. We based that on what had happened after the Crash of '29.

Well, we're still not there. But an analyst from Morgan Stanley tells us that markets tend to do better than that. The typical bounce is about 70%, says he.

Whew! That's a pretty serious bounce. If we'd known it was going to be that big we would have encouraged dear readers to bet on it. Instead, we judged it a dangerous countercurrent...like a back eddy or rip tide. Yes, it can take you places...but not necessarily where you want to go!

Our outlook here at The Daily Reckoning is very long term. We don't like betting on countercurrents...even important ones. Instead, we like to go with the flow...and keep going with it until it arrives at its end.

That's not as easy as it sounds.

In 1999, it looked like the bull market had come to an end. We thought so. We told readers to get out of stocks...and stay out. Gold was a better place to be.

Investors made nothing in stocks for the next 10 years. In real terms, the stock market decline began in January 2000. Prices went down. They bounced...such a big bounce that it looked like a genuine new bull market. But after inflation, there wasn't much left. Adjust for purchasing power and investors were worse off every year. Even now, after a 7-month bounce and a 45% gain, Dow investors are still down 30% to 40% from the highs set in 1999.

Dave Rosenberg...

"The only thing we really learned in this extremely flashy, seven-month, 60%, nine-point multiple expansion-led rally, is that momentum investing never did become extinguished this cycle. It is really a fascinating commentary on human behavior that so many 'investors' are lamenting about how 'the train has left the station' without them. Please, give us a giant break! The train has left the station countless of times in the last 10 years but obviously none of these trips lasted very long because the reality is that equities have failed to generate any positive return over this time interval.

"As for the here and now, there is another reality. Price gains in the stock market have generally occurred with low volume. There are limited buyers - hedge funds and flash traders - but no sellers (not yet, anyway). And, we saw in yesterday's decline that volume climbed across the board, and the number of high-volume selloffs is a major red flag that should not be ignored."

The typical major bear market lasts 15-20 years. The last one began in 1966. It wasn't until 1982 - 16 years later - that the next major bull trend began.

This bear market is already 10 years old. Perhaps it will end in 2015. Maybe in 2020. We don't know when. We only know how it will end - in misery.

Now, despite 10 years of stinkin' returns, investors still believe in stocks. They still hope to find the 'next Google.' They still punish fund managers who hold back. They still read the financial press. They still watch CNBC. They still want to know what stock to buy.

Yesterday, they bid up the Dow 131 points. The price of stocks to gold is about 10 to 1. When this trend began ten years ago, we predicted that the Dow and gold would go all the way to 1 for 1. We guessed it would happen at the 3,000 to 5,000 level. We'll stick with that prediction until it proves correct...or it makes us look like a fool.

Bill Bonner
for The Daily Reckoning Australia

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Bill BonnerBest-selling investment author Bill Bonner is the founder and president of Agora Publishing, one of the world's most successful consumer newsletter companies. Owner of both Fleet Street Publications and MoneyWeek magazine in the UK, he is also author of the free daily e-mail The Daily Reckoning.

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