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Bernard von NotHaus: The ‘Domestic Terrorist’ You Can Call a Hero

I dreamed I saw Bernard von NotHaus, alive as you or me.

Said I, ‘But Bernard, you’ve been jailed two years.’

‘I never was,’ said he.

Bernard has been the called the Rosa Parks of the alternative money movement. More than 10 years ago, he had this idea that he would make his own money – not the fake stuff we are used to, but the real stuff made of actual silver. He called his currency the Liberty Dollar (and why not, since there is no trademark on the word dollar?).

The feds raided him in in 2006. In 2007, the government outright stole 2 tons of coins from him, many of them featuring an image of Ron Paul, plus 500 silver coins and 50 gold coins. They threw him in jail and dragged his name through the mud many times.

He was later convicted of making counterfeit coins – an ironic conviction given that he was making silver coins to compete with official coins made out of scrap metal. That conviction was in March 2011, fully 2½ years ago. The government labelled him a ‘domestic terrorist’. Yet – and this is what amazed me – he still hasn’t been sentenced. He walks around as free as you or me.

Truly, I was stunned. I was sitting at a wonderful gathering in San Diego, Calif., called Libertopia. It is several days of lectures, exhibits, and panels, along with lots of socialising, by libertarians of many different stripes. I had just finished giving a talk and was sitting out on a puffy chair underneath an outdoor awning.

Up walked a thin, lively, bearded man who came right up and introduced himself. My jaw dropped. I got up and said the first thing that came to mind: ‘My God, man, you are a hero,’ and he blushed sweetly. I asked how it was that he was not in jail. He explained his saga without pathos or fear, and full of confidence that he would be exonerated.

After all, the feds threw every conceivable charge at him. The jury didn’t buy it, but finally did have to admit the he seemed to be producing and distributing what claimed to be dollars, but differed rather substantially from US government dollars.

That was the basis of the counterfeiting claim. The claim alone implies that somehow he was tricking people, which is ridiculous, since the whole reason his coins were marketable was precisely because his customers knew that his coins were real and, in this respect, differed completely from what the US government distributes.

Think about the many distributive technologies that came out in these frontier days in which a new world was being born. All the internet giants were being born during these years. Other services were simply distributive, such as Napster, which completely revolutionised music distribution, but was crushed by the feds in 2001.

The result was the deep entrenchment of distributed network file sharing, which is more ubiquitous than ever before. All these movements were about challenging the status quo in a fundamental way, the daring decision to take on state-blessed institutions and tap into the power of the consuming public to choose private over public services.

The movement was not killed, despite every attempt. What it actually did was change the whole way we get our services, use the internet, and engage each other in our social and economic lives. In a rapid and thrilling way, we began to see all the ways in which power could be devolved away from the elites and toward the people. It has left a permanent mark on the world.

The Liberty Dollar was part of this movement. For decades, some very high-level intellectuals had taken note of the decline of the quality of money, from about, oh, 1913, all the way to the advent of pure paper money in 1971.

The inflation of the late 1970s made the point: There has to be a better way. Economist F.A. Hayek wrote that it was entirely possible that a high-quality private money could compete with a government money.

But who would step out and make the attempt? What entrepreneur would dare come forward and offer up an alternative as a product in the consumer market?

Bernard von NotHaus was the man. There is nothing illegal about minting silver into round shapes and putting pictures on them. It’s not even clear that there is anything wrong with calling it a dollar, provided he didn’t try to claim it was a government dollar. And this is exactly what he did.

The money monopolists in Washington went absolutely nuts about this. They threw the book at him, and added some of the most hilarious rhetorical flourishes that one can imagine.

The attorney who prosecuted the case for the government said the following:

Attempts to undermine the legitimate currency of this country are simply a unique form of domestic terrorism. While these forms of anti-government activities do not involve violence, they are every bit as insidious and represent a clear and present danger to the economic stability of this country. We are determined to meet these threats through infiltration, disruption, and dismantling of organizations which seek to challenge the legitimacy of our democratic form of government.

A present danger? More like a present solution. The paper dollar hasn’t brought economic stability, but precisely the opposite. It’s been a long string of terrible booms and busts, bubbles and explosions since that fateful day when the gold backing of the dollar was completely removed.

The notion that government was trying to protect a marvellous system against domestic terrorism is mind-boggling, since the truth is rather obvious: The government was trying to protect a terrible system from being overthrown by competition.

But they stopped Bernard, right? Didn’t he fail? He can be very confident in knowing that he made a gigantic mark in history. He demonstrated that it could be done. He threw a model out there that would not go away.

And only two years after the looting of his business, an ambitious computer programmer created a code protocol that became what is now known as Bitcoin.

But the inventor of Bitcoin – whose identity is either completely unknown or one of the best kept secrets in history – knew better than to operate like a business. He made not silver rounds, but digital units.

He didn’t store these units in one place, but rather had them live on a globally distributed network that no government can shut down. He relied not on a third-party transmitter, but instead made it possible for this new currency to be traded peer to peer.

Bitcoin is a brilliant combination of the Liberty Dollar’s soundness and Napster’s distribution methods, with a few extra features thrown in to protect it against shutdowns.

In other words, Bernard von NotHaus took one for the sound-money team, and, in time, the world will see that his instincts were exactly right. Monopolies can’t last.

Not even the world’s most powerful government can keep quality and consumer preference at bay forever. His idea pointed to a bright future in a revolutionary way. The revolution will not occur with guns and battles, but through enterprise, entrepreneurship, and a billion tiny acts of peaceful consumer choice.

When I think of this sweet, inauspicious, brilliant man, I can’t help but smile. He is not a revolutionary in the mold of Lenin or Napoleon or even a fulminating media figure. His mode is to make something cool and offer it to people.

It’s the American way, and it’s the height of hypocrisy that he would be persecuted in the Land for the Free simply for having made a better mousetrap.

This is why he is a legend. This is why he will go down in history. And perhaps this is why he continues to wait for his sentencing to take place.

Regards,

Jeffrey Tucker
for The Daily Reckoning Australia

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18 Comments

  1. slewie the pi-rat says:

    points of fact:
    1) the US MINT does produce and distribute 1 (t)oz. .9999 pure American Silver Eagles with the monetary denomination of ONE DOLLAR.

    2) von N.’s case was not about violating a trademark on the word DOLLAR. many firms or individuals design and produce pure silver rounds without saying they are ‘DOLLARS’ or ‘Ten Dollars’. why’s that? well, apparently, under US Law, it is not LEGAL to do so.

    if you grow tomatoes and label them ‘organic’ b/c you grew them yourself, this does not MAKE them LEGALLY ‘organic’. saying a metal disc is MONEY does not make it so. apparently, other silver round designers and producers understood this ‘little nuance’ better than von N.

    3) there are almost certainly legal reasons why he has not yet been sentenced. if he does not know what they are and/or could not relate them, he may be confused about the legal process.

    the writer’s praise for the man does not change the facts. ironically, if von N.’s legal beagles are appealing aspects of the case or just trying to work out a humane “sentence” for him, continued willful misunderstanding of the legal problems he has created for himself may harm, rather than help him.

    an adroit prosecutor may take Mr. Tucker’s piece, here, to the sentencing hearing and say: “see! people are STILL thinking he is a hero for MONETIZING his [Ron Paul or ?] rounds, and he seemed to be encouraging such thought while free, awaiting sentencing, in SoCal. lock him up!”

    my understanding may not be complete, but coin shops, brick & mortar, as well as online, are full of silver rounds which are for sale and “trade” but are NOT monetized. no problemo!

    the MONETIZED ones are produced by US Mint, Canadian Mint, Australian, Indonesian, Chinese, British, and so on…
    …not by individuals who claim ‘libertarianISM’ somehow allows them to monetize, also, b/c by golly, that’s a good ‘libertarian’ idea…

    “Attempts to undermine the legitimate currency of this country are simply a unique form of domestic terrorism.” now, i would not express this with quite the hyperbole & prosecutorial ‘buzz words’ which follow, above, myself, but the legal issue seems to be that monetizing a round as ‘___ Dollars’ is simply not LEGAL and is [technically] counterfeiting, which is IL-legal.

    the fact that intelligent people still do not ‘get’ this may not serve von N. well, here. he has already been convicted. whether he understood the legal implications of what he was doing may have been irrelevant at trial, given he is ‘legally sane’, but legal INTENT might be considered around sentencing.

    using him to strike up the band and lead this kind of a parade NOW may get him an extra decade in the slammer. i don’t wish it, but i suspect that this kind of ‘blurring the legal lines’ will not help him, one iota, at sentencing, if he exhausts his appeals and has to stand for same.

    legally, i think making a ‘better’ mousetrap is one thing; monetizing it, another.

    btw, Bitcoin is not MONETIZED, either.
    for the nth time: it is NOT a currency, imo, but rather a service.

  2. Charles Pasley says:

    In response to the previous writer, I occasionally bought Mr. von Nothaus’ silver rounds, not to use as money or because I considered them to be money but because I thought they were a nice looking product. I have bought one ounce silver items from other dealers — Chattanooga Coin Company comes to mind — that except for the word “dollar” on them were identical to United States Silver Dollar designs, so much so that an unobservant person could have mistaken them for legal tender silver dollars of the pre-Eagle type, and yet the Feds did not go after Chattanooga Coin Company. Mr. von Nothaus’ silver did not closely resemble any U.S. coinage past or present, so how could it be a counterfeit? I thought that counterfeiting coins was making copies of current or former legal coins and attempting to pass them off as the real thing. How can his silver be a counterfeit of U. S. coinage when it did not even look like U. S. coinage, nor was it, from my reading of his literature, ever intended to pass as any U.S. coin? Perhaps he would have been in the clear if he had used the original term — thaler — instead of the term dollar, which came to us from the Spanish “piece of eight” coin (unconstitutionally demonetized in 1857).

  3. Mountain Man says:

    Pi-rat raises some interesting points, but they fail under to pass muster under scrutiny. First, the Constitution plainly declares what is/is not considered ‘Money’. Paper currency, by contrast, is not lawful ‘Money’ but is ‘legal tender’ by fiat. If you don’t know the difference, pick up a copy of Black’s Legal Dictionary for clarification.

    Secondly, the US Const. grants Congress the power to ‘Coin’ or mint Money and to regulate the value thereof. Additionally, it stipulates that the States may issue coinage so long as it meets the ‘lawful’ requirement of being comprised of ‘gold or silver’ as well.

    Von N. has not Counterfeited anything otherwise He’d already be under the jail. His coins did not in any way lead a consumer to believe they were issued by the U.S. Government. Nor did they contain the U.S. Seal or other official government emblems. Von N. simply issued a private currency, which is not illegal. People have free agency to use anything they wish in private commerce. You couldn’t, for instance, use Monopoly Money to pay your property taxes, but you could use it to pay your Barber if your barber determined it was equal to the haircut he gave you.

    We all have a free agency to determine value and no government can prevent the private exchange of goods and services for other goods and services. The 10th Amendment reserves any and all other ‘Rights’ or ‘Powers’ not specifically delegated to the Federal Government to the States or to the People.

    Von N. is NOT at liberty to counterfeit State issued coins or currency the way China might attempt to do, but DOES have the right to issue his own private ‘tokens’ or ‘coins’ or ‘currency’ the way that Coal Companies issued scrip back in the day.

    Then, as now, the scrip held value in the eyes of the users. The reason he hasn’t be sentenced is because a conviction without incarceration amounts to a slap on the wrist. If they try to deprive him of his liberty, he would probably win on appeal. Besides, the government wouldn’t want a precedent that properly interpreted the Constitution as it would undermine and expose the whole ‘fiat money game’ that exist now.

    Legal Currency does NOT equal Lawful Money. What prevents a merchant from accepting Japanese Yen, Farthings, or Yuan as payment for services or goods? What prevents them from accepting anything of equal or greater value? South Africa uses a currency that has the word dollar in it…would someone be arrested if they tendered this for payment of a debt and it was subsequently accepted by a willing merchant?

    The idea that Von N. is a domestic terrorist is absurd, the only terror he holds is for the Banksters and Bandits that seek to enslave and undermine this great nation through racketeering and a monopolistic system of currency issuance and compounding debt via the Federal Reserve. Who do you suppose owns stock in the Federal Reserve?

    Did you know that any monies or interest made from ownership of stock in the Federal Reserve is ‘untaxable’ by operation of law. This means that whoever does own stock in the Federal Reserve NEVER pays taxes on the money they derive from its ownership. This is plainly stated in the Federal Reserve Act…read it for yourself.

    Von N. is a patriot and a hero indeed. The Government is the real criminal here. Von N. has done nothing to violate US Law, when properly interpreted, but alas, the interpreters are not being honest to the Law as it is written. The prosecutor and judges are simply twisting the law to protect a criminal enterprise. The jury got it wrong…they, like most people, probably do not understand the concept of money to begin with and do not know the difference between lawful money and fiat currency. If so, they most likely wouldn’t have convicted Von N.

    Just my thoughts

  4. Shalomburg Schlinkenstein says:

    >>Bitcoin is a brilliant combination of the Liberty Dollar’s soundness

    Please tell me you didn’t write this! What makes bitcoin sound? What intrinsic value does it have that has allowed it to survive over 5000 yrs of economics?

  5. I’d like to respond to the “pi-rat” point by point.

    1. Liberty dollar offered at least equal quality for a lower price and therefore a better value to customers

    2. “apparently under US law it’s not legal” – You need to cite the chapter, verse and line of US Code stating that it’s not legal. the “law” is not determined by what people do but by what’s in the USC and other legal documents.

    3. ” my understanding may not be complete” AMEN.

    And now for a few comments of my own. Perhaps THIS and others like it are why there is no sentencing thus far:

    Honorable Richard L. Voorhees,
    As Fellow Americans, we are beneficiaries of a truly remarkable society that functions through the division of labor. Money is the tool that enables this division of labor. Laws governing the illegal and irreprehensible act of counterfeiting money are necessary and legitimate so long as they protect individuals engaging in honest and peaceful trade.
    By definition, individuals and their organizations who engage in the act of counterfeiting money seek to gain valuable products and services provided by other individuals without providing equal value themselves. The counterfeiter experiences gain by increasing the number of monetary units within the monetary system without likewise increasing the number of goods and services available. To counterfeit money therefore is always and everywhere an act of theft against all other individuals participating within the same monetary system. It is a crime that harms everyone. It is a crime against society as a whole.
    America was founded through a revolution, and many of the reasons this revolution occurred were monetary. The units that, in aggregate, created the monetary system of America from the revolution until 1913 were comprised of gold and silver. Since 1913 the monetary system of the United States has been corrupted by thieves who call themselves “bankers”. They have managed to usurp the entire system. Today they create new monetary units from thin air. Each new unit devalues every other existing unit. This is the act of theft that counterfeiting laws are designed to prevent and punish. They are the thieves who should be tried and convicted.
    Bernard V. NotHaus provided valuable goods and services in exchange for valuable goods and services he received. For this, he cannot be considered a thief, he is not a counterfeiter. His only malfeasance was against bankers, and in this endeavor, he made theft by the bankers against every American more obvious, to more Americans. The monetary system these bankers have foisted upon America is going down like the Titanic. It has hit an iceberg, and that iceberg is debt. Berhard Von NotHaus, Ron Paul, and many other Patriots have correctly identified the root of this problem and offered solutions. They have fought against it, and regardless of individual agendas they may have had at the time, they have acted to preserve and restore honesty, respect, and individual liberty to America. Their actions have benefited society. They should be rewarded for their contributions, not convicted and history will grant them this reward regardless of what happens in the present, truth they have taught will prevail of its own accord.
    As fellow Americans, we have inherited the gifts of individual liberty and a constitutional republic. The most precious gifts we can pass on to our children are the same. Everyone carries a part of society on his shoulders; no one is relieved of his share of responsibility by others. No one can find a safe way out for himself if society is sweeping towards destruction. Therefore everyone, in his own interests, must thrust himself vigorously into the intellectual battle. Please use your current position of authority in harmony with the US Constitution, which you have taken an oath and are sworn to uphold. Please do your part for the good of ourselves, our posterity, and our country. Please grant Bernard Von NotHaus a new trial.
    Yours in liberty,

  6. Chris says:

    LOL ^ Shill.

  7. shoots says:

    sure the writer knows that the currency is issued by the fed, not the gov?? look at the notes. and that the fed is private

  8. Ross says:

    more demand for silver bullets anyway,

    why take on city hall?

  9. Chris R says:

    Wow! Slewie you are writing (at great length) about something you obviously do not know much about.
    For starters, the word “dollar” is NOT a copyrighted or protected word, that would make Mickey Mouse “Disney Dollars” illegal, and of course they are not. Or should Mickey be charged with terrorism as well?
    Bernard hasnt been sentenced because he didnt do anything illegal except step on the toes of a privately owned Federal Reserve Bank creating paper “dollars” backed by warm feelings and massive debt, and
    perhaps there is still some sanity left in the legal system.

    Your statement of “continued willful misunderstanding of the legal problems he has created …” Excuse me but “willful”? Now you sound like a prosecuter trying to mislead the jury !
    Im not going to waste my time punching holes in your slanted short story, but it is pretty obvious you havent done your homework and have some sort of an agenda. Yes, you are correct, your understanding is not complete. About the most accurate sentence in you response…

    BTW… One of the definitions of the word “dollar”…
    “originally, a silver coin that circulated in many European countries;(Encyclopedia Britannica)

    The term “dollar” in the sense of the “Liberty Dollar” could not be more accurate !

  10. Chris R says:

    Disney Dollars are a type of currency available from the Walt Disney Company

  11. Frank says:

    In response to stewie the pi rat:

    I don’t think you understand. The word dollar is not uniquely associated with the United States.

    We have the following currencies with the word dollar in them:

    Australian dollar
    Bahamian dollar
    Barbadian dollar
    Belize dollar
    Bermudian dollar
    Brunei dollar
    Canadian dollar
    Cayman Islands dollar
    Cook Islands dollar
    East Caribbean dollar
    Fijian dollar
    Guyanese dollar
    Hong Kong dollar
    Jamaican dollar
    Kiribati dollar
    Liberian dollar
    Namibian dollar
    New Zealand dollar
    Niue dollar
    Singapore dollar
    Solomon Islands dollar
    Surinamese dollar
    New Taiwan dollar
    Trinidad and Tobago dollar
    Tuvaluan dollar
    United States dollar

    And the following now defunct ‘dollars':

    Antigua dollar
    British Columbia dollar
    British North Borneo dollar
    British West Indies dollar
    Confederate States of America dollar
    Continental dollar
    Dominican dollar
    Grenadan dollar
    Hawaiian dollar
    Japanese occupation dollar
    Kiautschou dollar
    Malaya and British Borneo dollar
    Malayan dollar
    Mauritian dollar
    Mongolian dollar
    Nevisian dollar
    New Brunswick dollar
    Newfoundland dollar
    Nova Scotian dollar
    Penang dollar
    Prince Edward Island dollar
    Puerto Rican dollar
    Rhodesian dollar
    Saint Kitts dollar
    Saint Lucia dollar
    Saint Vincent dollar
    Sarawak dollar
    Sierra Leonean dollar
    Spanish dollar
    Straits dollar
    Sumatran dollar
    Old Taiwan dollar
    Texas dollar
    Trinidadian dollar
    Tobagan dollar
    Zimbabwean dollar

    The legal claims against him are counterfeiting. Here is the definition of counterfeiting: To make a copy of, with the intent to defraud.

    Since he was very clear that liberty dollar is not equal to USD the claim of counterfeiting is disingenuous. From what I understand of the liberty dollar it looks nothing like US currency.

    Also we have the following private ‘dollars’, so I guess the feds will be cracking down on Mickey Mouse next.

    Antarctican dollar
    Calgary dollar
    Disney dollar
    Liberty dollar
    Salt Spring dollar
    Toronto dollar

  12. Joseph Lieberman says:

    It is not illegal to have the price of your silver disk on the silver
    Look at Corporate Giant Walt Disney
    They have been printing DISNEY DOLLARS for years and never even raided
    By the Feds,, this is because even they were not breaking the law
    Bernard and the liberty dollar is a case of the FEDS being
    RAPACIOUS HARPIES they have exaggerated and lied outright regarding
    Meaning and application of the law..
    Liberty dollars are in no way at all a violation of Any counterfeiting laws.

  13. Joe says:

    I bet the US government has thrown a lot of money on hacking the Bitcoin system.

  14. Vanmind says:

    I harkened songs both tulip and bitcoin
    I tacked toward those shoals
    All while reckoning new ways existed
    For reaching my rarified goals

  15. Lackadais says:

    Pi-rat is a moron and a legalist sheep. Money is anything used as a medium of exchange, not necessarily a good sanctioned by a government. What the rat is thinking of is LEGAL TENDER. Additionally, rats legalistic “argument” is pure comedy at best. Paper laws have no legitimacy and mean nothing. BvN was a bit careless, but he committed no crime. The Federal Reserve are the ones in the counterfeiting business.

  16. Lackadais says:

    Joe, you cant hack bitcoin. Its source is open and final. It cant be changed.

  17. slewie the pi-rat says:

    L0L!!! yes, i’ve seen them for sale, also.

    i was simply stating what my understanding of the government’s case is, and that i do not consider myself an expert on vonN.
    when the government gets a multi-count conviction in ANY felony trial it is not a small deal imo.

    hell, i wouldn’t have ever chased down vonN. he never did me any harm. honest. but he’s is the soup for this. slewie didn’t put him there.

    i understand the word dollar is not just U.S.! L0L!!! you don’t understand what i wrote?
    from my LIMITED understanding, i believe that if he hadn’t put ‘dollar’ ON the coins, the rest of what he did with them would NOT have amounted to a crime.
    i guess i didn’t make myself very clear.
    and again, that may be mistaken.
    maybe it wasn’t putting ‘dollar’ on them that made a FACTUAL difference in the case.
    i think, it probably was, don’t you?
    putting ‘dollar’ on them became ‘the difference that made a difference’ is maybe putting it better?
    not whether this is right or wrong, just whether it IS the relevant FACT in the case.
    it is just my lay understanding and this article did not address this aspect:
    what ARE the relevant facts around the convictions?

    i never said he was treated equitably. or if i did, i didn’t intend to.
    i read about the raid in ~real time. how many of these types of raids are fair? i’m not sticking UP for the government, just saying that SO FAR, they have stuck HIM, but good!

    there has been a motion for a new trial and so on but he lost in a JURY trial, with his own lawyers, AFTER waiving time, so a new trial is rare unless there was a misTRIAL.
    often, just a problem of charging the jury or interpreting the law as it applies, and appeals fly!
    and some appeals win! even while awaiting sentencing.
    but he was convicted by a jury.

    i don’t know about the timing on the sentencing.

    my point was for people to try to stick to the facts about the government’s CASE, because OF the sentencing.
    vonN is is the s.o.u.p.
    even if he is enjoying soCal while out awaiting sentencing.
    keep stepping on Superman’s cape if you wish.
    personally, i would advise against it here, for vonN’s sake, but others seem to know better.

    as Ross asks, why take on City Hall?
    for vonN, maybe he will show that the law IS stupid and should not be enforced against him. Great! just DO it!
    he seems to be somewhat of an activist and trying to prove a point, politically, or against governmentalISM, by his actions.
    so he MAY have been ‘targeted’.

    so was John Gotti?
    but the clock is running, so i wish him luck.
    from the comments, it appears i’m taking his case much more seriously than others here. ya don’t wanna lose a jury trial on felonies, people! especially if you put a target on your own back.

    it’s over.
    now, except for appeals, he is a convict, on bail, awaiting sentencing.
    i’m not judging him. that’s been DONE!
    unless an appeals judge or review panel thinks he got screwed, he didn’t get screwed. just ‘wait and see’ is about it.
    legal. facts. done.

    you wanna spit into that wind?
    this vonN made a pretty fun target for somebody!
    convicted by a jury on four counts, after eight “days” of trial, in two hours.
    ~he was screwed! ~kill the ump! ~this ain’t fair!
    what i’m TRYING to say is: he’s facing the 25 years, here, not you.
    you wanna step on Superman’s cape, FOR him, you go ahead.
    he’s your libertarian hero-symbol, not mine.
    maybe that’s what he wants.
    it would not be totally out of character, for him, certainly.
    as far as stepping on vonN’s cape, i confess,
    he doesn’t have one, for me…
    and if the author and some others wish to have a parade for him, you may have a different take than i on “sentencing”. great! go for it!

    we’ve all done it at some level.
    i sure have.
    you do a few harmless donuts in your car on Saturday night, as half the High School cheers you on, and: next thing you know, you’re getting a ticket for 39 m.p.h. in a 35 zone, on Monday, after school.
    and Tuesday: you didn’t quite stop @ that sign, son.

    when it happened to OJ, nobody seemed to mind.
    didn’t he get beefed in Vegas for going into a hotel room w/ two guys and telling a few other guys they were NOT leaving until they gave him HIS stuff back? somebody waved a pistol…
    …kidnapping and armed robbery. 35 years.
    pretty stupid, OJ!

    but, but, i didn’t KNOW about the pistol!
    plus, it wasn’t MY gun!

    gee. maybe ya got set up.
    who cares? under the LAW, it doesn’t matter, does it?
    the FACTS do, though!
    probably ~six months, without that pistol. too bad, OJ! gosh! 35 years!
    see ya!

    next!

  18. Fleendar the Magnificent says:

    The government went after Bernard because of his use of the word “DOLLAR” on his coinage. If he had used any other monetary unit term on his coins *other* than “Dollar/s”, even if he had called them 1,5 & 10 valued Fripplings, he’d have been left alone more than likely. Look at the Berkshare? It’s an alternative, local currency in the States and it’s still in use today. It’s ALL about the name, and the government took his use of the word “Dollar/s” as a direct attack on their fiat currency and counterfeiting it.
    He put himself directly on the radar when he used the word Dollars plain and simple.

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