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Ghost of the Great Depression


By Bill Bonner • October 6th, 2008 • Related Articles • Filed Under

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Bill BonnerBest-selling investment author Bill Bonner is the founder and president of Agora Publishing, one of the world's most successful consumer newsletter companies. Owner of both Fleet Street Publications and MoneyWeek magazine in the UK, he is also author of the free daily e-mail The Daily Reckoning.

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"Liquidate labor, liquidate stocks, liquidate the farmers, liquidate real estate... It will purge the rottenness out of the system...values will be adjusted, and enterprising people will pick up the wrecks from less competent people..."

That is the advice from a ghost - U.S. Treasury Secretary Andrew Mellon. But this is 2008, not 1928...the climate has changed. This week began with heavy weather - and then got worse. Over on the continent, Fortis was going under. And in British waters, the government had a rescue helicopter hovering over Bradford and Bingley. The Baltic Freight Index ran aground on the coast of Brazil, after the Chinese refused to kowtow to Vale's new price demands for its iron ore. Shipping costs went down by 25% last week - 10% on Friday alone. Apparently, the Chinese turned off their heavy factories before the Olympics; now, they can't seem to find the switch to get them going again. Then, by Friday, the railroads were in crash mode too. Housing prices are falling faster than ever in the United States. In Britain, the average house is falling by 93 pounds per day; the average wage is only 65 pounds per day.

We do not usually give advice to governments. To be fully transparent about it, none has ever asked. It is enough to try to advise Daily Reckoning readers. If we were to save the entire world's financial system, at least we would want something in exchange...say, a signed photo of our president with a thank you note. Still, in the spirit of public service we undertake to unclog the following drain:

Taking into account even the most "severe assumptions" on default rates, Barron's columnist Jonathan Laing calculated that Paulson's bailout plan would have given the feds positive carry [the difference between the cost of borrowing money and what you earn from it] of at least 7% or 8%. He figured that the government would have ended up with a $75 billion profit in two years.

But even with the hope of profit before it, the House of Representatives rejected the plan...and then, the hurricane winds blew even harder. The world's stock markets had their worse day ever. The choice is clear, warned a flange of kibitzers, either a bailout bill or a Great Depression. Most likely, today, Congress will vote for the former and get something close to the latter.

By Wednesday, scores of commentators had been to the cemetery. Most were channeling Franklin Roosevelt. He "understood that his first job was to restore confidence," wrote David Brooks in the New York Times. Over in the Financial Times, Martin Wolf even quotes Roosevelt's puerile remark that "the only thing we have to fear is fear itself". What about 25% unemployment, one is tempted to ask?

"[W]e might have done nothing. That would have been utter ruin. Instead we met the situation with proposals...of the most gigantic program of economic defense and counterattack ever evolved in the history of the Republic... Some of the reactionary economists urged that we should allow the liquidation to take its course until we have found bottom... We determined that we would not follow the advice of the bitter-end liquidationists..."

That quotation comes neither from Paulson nor Bernankes, but from another ghost. Herbert Hoover has gotten the reputation for being a "do nothing" president. Would it were so. When the Herbert Hoover passed the baton to Roosevelt, his can-do meddling had already helped turn a financial crisis into a Great Depression. You see, ghosts are often morons too.

Poor Andrew Mellon was shouldered aside in the early '30s. Then, Hoover got to work. His first improvement is known to us by two knuckleheads who turned it into law - Misters Smoot and Hawley. The idea was to protect U.S. business by imposing higher tariffs on foreign trade. A group of 1,000 economists, bankers and other notables realized that blocking trade at the onset of an economic slump would be suicide. They urged him to veto the bill. But Hoover believed in tariffs as he believed in almost all other forms of government interference. He signed the bill with approval.

He called on the Fed to provide "an ample supply of credit at low rates of interest," and initiated a program of public works - including the Hoover Dam, a massive lump of concrete that blocks the Colorado River. He threatened federal regulation of the New York Stock Exchange and attacked short selling.

Hoover's chief concern seemed to be to hold up the price of labor. He cut off immigration, in an effort to keep out wage competition. Then, he got the business community to pledge that it would not reduce wages. Since the cost of labor was then too high for the closely shaved profit margins, businesses could not hire. Unemployment rose.

Roosevelt was a better politician, which is to say - he was more shameless. He attacked Hoover for spending too much money - won the presidency - and then spent more. He began so many agencies and projects - from the AAA (Agriculture Adjustment Act) to the CCC (Civilian Conservation Corps) to the SSA (Social Security Act) - he practically ran out of alphabet. He also imposed wage and price controls, as well as limits to executive salaries.

What was the result of all these good intentions? Instead of a panic and quick recovery - a la 1921 - the U.S. economy went into a long, hard on-again, off-again depression that put a quarter of the workforce out of a job. It might have lasted until the '50s had it not been for the biggest public works program of all time came along - WWII.

And now the ghosts of the Great Depression haunt the Capitol, while today's Smoots and Hawleys vote on a new plan. They've pledged a new bailout program by the end of the week. When last we looked world markets were turning up their faces, hopefully...like a girl expecting a kiss. What they're more likely to get is a good fright.

Bill Bonner
for The Daily Reckoning Australia

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Bill BonnerBest-selling investment author Bill Bonner is the founder and president of Agora Publishing, one of the world's most successful consumer newsletter companies. Owner of both Fleet Street Publications and MoneyWeek magazine in the UK, he is also author of the free daily e-mail The Daily Reckoning.

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  1. Comment by mike on 7 October 2008:

    ...the other day i overheard two remnant battle-axes on the streetcar...."you know olga...the worst part in the depression was havin' to eat pickled eggs"....."yee-aah melba....i didn't have so many teeth back then...and i still don't...all over again...yee-aah"....and sandwiched between them their veteran friend orrell.." i never won a single game at cards my whole darn'd life long...ever".....

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  2. Comment by ralph hill on 7 October 2008:

    The NEW YORK TIMES wrote:

    "American consumers are pulling back on their spending, all but guaranteeing that the economic situation will get worse ..."

    go out and spend, spend, spend whatever you have and SAVE AMERICA.

    you might as well, if you believe those rascals in DC can spend their way out of bankrupcy and financial ruin then i assure you you may have already won the nigerian lottery........

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  3. Comment by Robert on 7 October 2008:

    I am trying to calculate at which point at the current rates of decline will I be able to buy all of BHP, before all my $A are worthless.

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  4. Comment by Bob on 10 October 2008:

    If the politicians want to help Wall Street, why don't they start by returning all those campaign contributions?

    http://www.bizjournals.com/tampabay/stories/2008/09/15/daily27.html

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  5. Comment by Chan on 2 February 2009:

    Hi there,
    I read your mail everyday,love it.
    I guess ninty % of the world is covered in water and the rest morgages.
    regards Chan

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