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		<title>By: Reece Arnott</title>
		<link>http://www.dailyreckoning.com.au/oil-price-7/2008/05/16/comment-page-1/#comment-23459</link>
		<dc:creator>Reece Arnott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 00:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems a simple introduction to Peak Oil theory would be worthwhile at this point. I&#039;m by no means an expert but I have been reading The Oil Drum http://www.theoildrum.com/ for a few years so I think I have a grasp of the basics.

Firsty, Peak Oil is not about running out of oil and by itself doesn&#039;t say much about the price.

Its about a peak in supply per day/week/year. The basic idea goes like this: The oil thats found first is also the stuff that easiest to get out of the ground, the stuff thats found later is harder to get and (this is the important part) we can&#039;t get it out as fast. Therefore at some point, the amount of oil coming out of the ground per day will reach a maximum and decrease from then on (perhaps after a few ups and downs but generally fixed supply for a while).

When you add in the idea that the harder to extract oil is going to cost more to get out and that we &#039;need&#039; oil at whatever price you get the idea that prices will increase.

The term used to describe this need is &#039;inelastic&#039;. If demand is inelastic, it doesn&#039;t change much when the price changes. In the eyes of the average consumer they may be doing a lot to try and not use the car as much but how much is that marginal use as a percentage of the oil they indirectly use by importing goods and services?

We have built world-wide transportation infrastructures on using oil to get around (not to mention all the petro-chemical plastics etc.). So, unless we have teleportation ready to be rolled out on an industrial scale, worldwide usage of oil is quite inelastic because the individual choices we make about our car usage are very small in comparision to this.

For demand to decrease to a point where it has a significant impact on the price of oil when the supply of oil is either fixed or decreasing (i.e. past peak) you are talking about changing the infrastructure of the world!

This is not something that is done overnight. If its done in a controlled way it will take time (and prices will keep on rising in the meantime). If its uncontrolled, you have the poorer countries outbid for oil and potentially their entire economy collapsing as their infrastructure grinds to a halt.

All this of course assumes that:
1. Supply is fixed/decreasing. i.e. Peak Oil is here or already past.
2. Demand is inelastic. i.e. our individual changes in oil consumption decisions are too little and/or too late.

I&#039;m of the opinion that 1 is true but I don&#039;t want to believe that 2 is. Looking at the world of today I see no reason to argue against it, I just don&#039;t like the potential future that implies if we bury our heads in the sand.

Either way, I&#039;m trying to do my bit to change my individual habits and educate myself. I&#039;d advise others to do the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems a simple introduction to Peak Oil theory would be worthwhile at this point. I'm by no means an expert but I have been reading The Oil Drum <a href="http://www.theoildrum.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.theoildrum.com/</a> for a few years so I think I have a grasp of the basics.</p>
<p>Firsty, Peak Oil is not about running out of oil and by itself doesn't say much about the price.</p>
<p>Its about a peak in supply per day/week/year. The basic idea goes like this: The oil thats found first is also the stuff that easiest to get out of the ground, the stuff thats found later is harder to get and (this is the important part) we can't get it out as fast. Therefore at some point, the amount of oil coming out of the ground per day will reach a maximum and decrease from then on (perhaps after a few ups and downs but generally fixed supply for a while).</p>
<p>When you add in the idea that the harder to extract oil is going to cost more to get out and that we 'need' oil at whatever price you get the idea that prices will increase.</p>
<p>The term used to describe this need is 'inelastic'. If demand is inelastic, it doesn't change much when the price changes. In the eyes of the average consumer they may be doing a lot to try and not use the car as much but how much is that marginal use as a percentage of the oil they indirectly use by importing goods and services?</p>
<p>We have built world-wide transportation infrastructures on using oil to get around (not to mention all the petro-chemical plastics etc.). So, unless we have teleportation ready to be rolled out on an industrial scale, worldwide usage of oil is quite inelastic because the individual choices we make about our car usage are very small in comparision to this.</p>
<p>For demand to decrease to a point where it has a significant impact on the price of oil when the supply of oil is either fixed or decreasing (i.e. past peak) you are talking about changing the infrastructure of the world!</p>
<p>This is not something that is done overnight. If its done in a controlled way it will take time (and prices will keep on rising in the meantime). If its uncontrolled, you have the poorer countries outbid for oil and potentially their entire economy collapsing as their infrastructure grinds to a halt.</p>
<p>All this of course assumes that:<br />
1. Supply is fixed/decreasing. i.e. Peak Oil is here or already past.<br />
2. Demand is inelastic. i.e. our individual changes in oil consumption decisions are too little and/or too late.</p>
<p>I'm of the opinion that 1 is true but I don't want to believe that 2 is. Looking at the world of today I see no reason to argue against it, I just don't like the potential future that implies if we bury our heads in the sand.</p>
<p>Either way, I'm trying to do my bit to change my individual habits and educate myself. I'd advise others to do the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Silverado</title>
		<link>http://www.dailyreckoning.com.au/oil-price-7/2008/05/16/comment-page-1/#comment-23455</link>
		<dc:creator>Silverado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 22:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Goldmember will have his day. Lihir&#039;s prospects are looking good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goldmember will have his day. Lihir's prospects are looking good.</p>
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		<title>By: Dude59</title>
		<link>http://www.dailyreckoning.com.au/oil-price-7/2008/05/16/comment-page-1/#comment-23439</link>
		<dc:creator>Dude59</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 15:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, today we have Oil in CONTANGO!!! So much for the prices going down. Serious Issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, today we have Oil in CONTANGO!!! So much for the prices going down. Serious Issue.</p>
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		<title>By: ruckrover</title>
		<link>http://www.dailyreckoning.com.au/oil-price-7/2008/05/16/comment-page-1/#comment-23427</link>
		<dc:creator>ruckrover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 12:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good comment by Viv.  Peak Oil is a huge worry - whenever it comes, and terrifying if it is already here - as some say.  Would like to see someone as incisive as Bill Bonner have a good look at the Peak Oil theory. A good place to start is www.theoildrum.com which has a lot of oil exploration engineer types posting their technical based views as to why we&#039;re facing a huge global challenge.

I recently met a retired former chief engineer of a large global oil exploration company - his view Peak Oil was &quot;about now&quot;.  He said the world has enough natural gas - but it is not retooling the car factories and fuel infrastructure fast enough.  Also that petoleum is necessary for aviation fuel and some other uses and should be conserved.  Not burnt in SUV&#039;s going to buy a pizza.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good comment by Viv.  Peak Oil is a huge worry - whenever it comes, and terrifying if it is already here - as some say.  Would like to see someone as incisive as Bill Bonner have a good look at the Peak Oil theory. A good place to start is <a href="http://www.theoildrum.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.theoildrum.com</a> which has a lot of oil exploration engineer types posting their technical based views as to why we're facing a huge global challenge.</p>
<p>I recently met a retired former chief engineer of a large global oil exploration company - his view Peak Oil was "about now".  He said the world has enough natural gas - but it is not retooling the car factories and fuel infrastructure fast enough.  Also that petoleum is necessary for aviation fuel and some other uses and should be conserved.  Not burnt in SUV's going to buy a pizza.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>http://www.dailyreckoning.com.au/oil-price-7/2008/05/16/comment-page-1/#comment-23376</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 01:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google Lindsay Williams. And she sayeth unto the Lord, &quot;And shall we forever be, as thick as two bricks?&quot; And the Lord sayeth, &quot;Yes.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google Lindsay Williams. And she sayeth unto the Lord, "And shall we forever be, as thick as two bricks?" And the Lord sayeth, "Yes."</p>
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		<title>By: Viv</title>
		<link>http://www.dailyreckoning.com.au/oil-price-7/2008/05/16/comment-page-1/#comment-23270</link>
		<dc:creator>Viv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 16:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what about the peak oil theory? oil is a finite resource that is the lifeblood of the world economy, world use is projected to increase to 117 million barrels per day by 2025-2030, which means supply the size of which OPEC currently delivers onto the market will have to be found. Where is that much oil going to come from? If prices do fall, that is only going to encourage more consumption, driving them back up even more in the longer term.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what about the peak oil theory? oil is a finite resource that is the lifeblood of the world economy, world use is projected to increase to 117 million barrels per day by 2025-2030, which means supply the size of which OPEC currently delivers onto the market will have to be found. Where is that much oil going to come from? If prices do fall, that is only going to encourage more consumption, driving them back up even more in the longer term.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://www.dailyreckoning.com.au/oil-price-7/2008/05/16/comment-page-1/#comment-23240</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 08:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although I don&#039;t particularly like to defend Dan Denning, I believe that it is the oil bubble that has caused the lack of investing enthusiasm in some of the alternative energy stocks. The reason for this I believe is that oil stocks are just so much more appealing whilst they are in this bubble. As far as longer term stocks go however, I think he has the right idea with his alternative energy stock picks.

And guess who sold LNC at $1.40... me :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I don't particularly like to defend Dan Denning, I believe that it is the oil bubble that has caused the lack of investing enthusiasm in some of the alternative energy stocks. The reason for this I believe is that oil stocks are just so much more appealing whilst they are in this bubble. As far as longer term stocks go however, I think he has the right idea with his alternative energy stock picks.</p>
<p>And guess who sold LNC at $1.40... me <img src='http://www.dailyreckoning.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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