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It’s the same story, different day (SSDD). That is, nothing much has been revealed overnight to cause us to change our view that you’re investing in the midst of a long-term depression. Most of the positive GDP data coming out globally is backward looking. It doesn’t tell you much about the future.

It is worth noting that a story in yesterday’s Financial Review showed that prices for coking coal have followed iron ore and coal prices down. Record high prices for all of those key exports drove a huge increase in the terms of trade and are behind bullish projections for stock prices, government revenues, and GDP expectations.

But if Chinese demand for these steel-making ingredients falls, all those projections are pretty iffy. It all depends on if Chinese property prices are in a bubble. They are, according to Jiang Hui, the investment director at Star Rock Investment (not Rock Star investment).

According to Bloomberg, Jiang told a conference in Shanghai that, “China’s property market has a very big bubble, which may last for a while…Only higher interest rates and the introduction of a property tax can bring down real-estate prices.”

There are many other things that can prick a bubble. But since we’ve been hitting it pretty hard this week, we’re going to leave those subjects alone. Instead, we’ve published a summary of some of the most interesting lists we got in response to our question a week ago of what to stock up on for the end of the world as you know it. You’ll find the notes below.

But first, and quickly, a mate asked us why we were being so overtly political and pro Liberal in an investment e-letter. We should clarify that we’re against all politicians. Someone wrote to us that, “Comparing elected political representatives to criminals is offensive.” Yes, it is, to the criminals.

You have to keep your eye on politics these days since the government has rushed in to muck up the market even more than it was mucked up by the banksters. But there’s no doubt, that stupidity and economic illiteracy are bi-partisan. If the Greens are basically against industrial society, then what does that make the independent Member for Kennedy, Bob Katter?

Katter has submitted a list of 20 demands/suggestions/flights of fancy/acts of lunacy to Julia Gillard and Tony Abbott. His support can be obtained (not purchased, as in Andrew Wilkie’s case) in exchange for agreeing to some of his demands/suggestions/flights of fancy/acts of lunacy.

This is why Libertarians are generally not conservatives. Conservatives, some of them anyway, don’t have any problem using State power to achieve their favoured ends. They’re just after different favours and different ends.

In Katter’s case, he’s especially ticked off that Coles and Woolworth’s have managed to offer Australians thousands of items they’d not be able to get at the Corner Milk shop at a reasonable price. They must be stopped!

He does have some provocative and entertaining ideas. We’ll give him that. But he reminds us of the Rich Texan character on the Simpson’s, also known as Senator Shady Bird Johnson. Do you see the resemblance?

More seriously, it’s interesting to see how the interest of regional Australia – very real and legitimate ones which Katter represents – differ from the capital cities. Maybe a one-size-fits-all Federal government isn’t going to work as Australia gets bigger. It’s not exactly the Red State/Blue State divide you see in the States. Not yet anyway.

Now, what’s on your list of things to stock up on because they disappear from shelves when people lose confidence in paper money? Some replies below. We’ve published quite a few of them. So take your time over the weekend to review!

Of utmost importance, toilet paper!!!

Also, long term outlook, off the rack magnifier reading glasses of various strengths, thread, needles, safety pins, buttons, antibacterial ointments, hydrogen peroxide, rubbing alcohol, toothpaste & brushes, vitamins & supplements, OTC pain killers as it all must fit in a small home, chose small items

Thanks for the daily reckoning! Really enjoy reading something amusing while learning

Anne

For us old fashioned book readin’ stay at homes, old fashioned light bulbs, preferably bayonet mounts but screw ins if that’s all and screw in fittings to replace the bayonet fittings. Serious…my local milk bar is selling them for $5 each (bloody screw ins) lots of cigarettes and vodka and proper beer. Crossbows and accessories? Quality dog food (for dog, if huntin’ gets bit tough) bicycles and accessories…are getting very pricey. Old fashioned cameras, film, darkroom equipment-anything that doesn’t need computers. Musical instruments. Good quality art materials and paper. And tools to fortify the joint. Now I’m getting carried away and romantic, this had better stop right here.

Enjoy ya trip like I enjoy ya newsletters.

Jill.

I have a wife and four daughters – no matter how bad things are chocolate always seems to lift the mood!! At the top of my list!! Mind you after reading your columns I don’t know whether to reach for the vodka or the pain killers – or both!! I have been following you for only 6 weeks now, is it just the current climate or is the glass always half empty??

Bruce W.

[Ed. note: not always, just the last ten years or so]

Among my list are sprout seeds, quick growing & nutritional (few days), matches/lighters,

rice/pasta, tinned tomatoes/sauces.

Anonymous.

My plan.

  1. Get out of debt.
  2. Get liquid. Have enough ready cash for the next two years.
  3. Invest in Australia’s underground proven assets. (gas, coal, copper, iron ore etc).
  4. Invest only in Australia where I live. Overseas exchange rates and bankruptcy of Nations do not alter the price of essential food in Australia.
  5. Invest in Intellectual Property focusing on the re-design of thermal power stations.

Kind regards,

J.

Sounds like you have the survivalist bug. Some more reserved commentators call it the lifeboat scenario. After watching Tony Robbins inform people that they had best watch out for a collapse late this year and no later than early next year I have been buying extras of everything, kitting out the 4wd and pencilling in great camp sites to go to when the bank holiday starts. Do you want to be in a city when people cannot access money – ergo food and fuel? Not this little black duck.

If you consider that Australia has no more than three weeks worth of fuel reserves and four weeks’ worth of food reserves I think a recovery in the near to medium term is psychopathic optimism.

Good luck.

M.

You have a good list. I would add: Heirloom seeds, matches and/or fire starters, first aid products, good boots, Swiss Army knife.

Best regards,

Charley

Lots of toilet paper, the nice soft one. Think we may be using it or selling it.

Graham

I’d add a tin opener. It might be embarrassing to die on top of a pile of tins, maybe holding an empty weapon.

V.

My wife’s Polish grandmother would always buy up huge stocks of salt when she thought a depression was coming. She lived through two world wars and died at a ripe old age of 93 about 10 years ago.

Love your column,

T. Smith

-First up, I love your dailies and weeklies. Very insightful and must say I do agree with almost all posted. That said, I do find it incredibly curious that a group of smart guys like yourself (nor almost any other economists I might add), still do not mention the underlying cause of why the word is going through this GFC right now.

It’s called Demographics, guys.

Wow, ever heard or studied that? The world economy pumps out around 58T per annum. Of that the US around 14-15T, the EU around 16T, China and Japan a piddly 5T. Germany rates bout 3.3T, then all of us just follow…Now assume the rest of the world is just like the US (I’m not sure, but a good bet I recon), the consumer is approximately 70% of the economy… Any problems so far?

So. If you only knew when (demographically) the big spenders were on the sidelines or spending, s**t, we would all be rich! But wait, we do! Through National and international statistics from (IMF, CIA, World Bank), we are now armed with these facts!

The big fact is that people in their late 40’s to 50’s scale down, with everything, from cars to Mc Mansions. The kids have left (or are leaving) home, me and you just wanna get all cuddly… And guess what? Whatever Obama or anyone says (or tries to pay for), I don’t f**cking need a new SUV from Ford or whomever! All I want my little retirement condo and my 401K (or Super in AUS)…

And that is the fact. The US and EU Consumers are now not spending. NO amount of FED spending will entice the Consumer to spend on that RV or the Mc Mansion they don’t need.

Please feel to comment, like the song, I’m just a guy.

I agree, no Bonds. Well, make money while you can though.

Eric

Items necessary on the basis of the experience of my grandmother, who lived through three bankruptcies during her life (1920, 1930, 1948) in Europe:

  • Salt (you can trade for salt any items of your need with farmers, then farmers always need salt – salt is easy to store for several decades!) – I think, that salt is the most important of all! Salt is as important as gold!
  • Gold, gold, gold – you can buy anything for gold during hard times. My grandmother told me, that during the 2nd world war a family of 4-5 persons could buy food for one day for 1g gold!
  • Matches
  • Saccharine
  • Fats of any kind (best is palm fat)
  • Additives for soap cooking (you can do it by using used fat!)
  • Warm clothing (also good for trading)
  • Any kind of appliance needed when you kill an animal for meet (pork, goat, chicken, etc.) – and abilities to process them
  • Wheat
  • Sugar (a lot of it, easy to store – use some drying material when packing – silica gel)
  • Honey
  • If possible let a water well be made in your yard
  • Washing powder + cosmetics as soap, toothpaste, etc.
  • Dried meet, fruit, preserves as marmalade, jams, – home made preserves to be preferred!
  • Petroleum lamps
  • Heating furnace fuelled by wood (also good for cooking)
  • If you have place: living stock like chicken, swine, etc.
  • Egg powder
  • Chocolate
  • Any kinds of nuts (vacuum-packed) – has a great nutrition value
  • Red vine
  • Vinegar and other spices like pepper, curry etc. (during bad times there are no spices)
  • Lemon juice preserve (vitamins!) self made
  • All kinds of penicillin pills
  • Plant a lot of fruit trees in your garden! Make sure, that your garden can not be seen from the road!

Hope that I could be of any help.

Although you did not ask for it, but I would like to add something else from my grandmother, here a list, what you should avoid in any case:

         §   Money with any bank on a banking account!
         §   Any kind of insurances
         §   Any dematerialized papers, like shares, etc.

From the history of my grandmother (she is now dead): She and my grandfather have saved money during their whole life, they wanted to have a nice banking account for their retirement. They wanted to travel to several places in their old days.

But the 2nd world war came. And the banks have eventually closed, but the paper money has lost all of its purchasing power anyway. She told me, if they had bought gold for their money, they could have been well off even during the hard times and thereafter. When I was a little girl my grandmother used to tell us these stories. I am happy, that I have listened.

And do you know what? My father used to purchase gold bars during the 1960s. Unfortunately he died being 49, so he did not need it.

With best wishes,

Valéria

Hello :-) I am writing in response to your article where you ask your readers what else should you stock up on.

I am stocking up on: sterno canned heat or ecofuel canned heat as that is the only heat source I can find that is safe to burn indoors without dying of carbon monoxide poisoning. And some of those fold up sterno stoves. You can buy them all on eBay and they ship worldwide, a lot of the sellers

Plus there is a company called sun jel that make indoor fireplaces that run of cans of fuel that is safe to burn indoors.

Plus I found on eBay these cool headlamps- they are headbands with a torch light stuck to the front of them- like miners use in mines, and I also got off eBay some cap lights whish are lights that you clip not the rim of your cap. I got some for the whole family. How else are you going to see at night when you’re cooking tins of spam ham on your sterno stove?

Plus spam ham of course, you can cut it into slices and fry it on your sterno stove.

Packets of seeds that reproduce year after year

Dried mashed potato that you just have to add water to.

Maybe even a camping fridge that runs on batteries

Get the whole house converted to solar so you won’t be subject to blackout or brownouts, and get a water tank for your backyard

Buy a dingo bush camping kettle so you don’t need a stove to boil water but be careful not to burn the house down as they don’t look too safe

Buy a 30 second tent in case you and your family need to flee

And some thick mink blankets to put over your family when the power goes off in winter, while you light the sun jel indoor fireplace.

Plus tinned food including tins of fruit cake and chocolate self saucing pudding so nobody rips each other’s heads off from depression during all of this fiasco. Chocolate works well in any situation to cheer people up

Plus powdered milk so you can have a tea or coffee at any time if you don’t have a fridge

Plus aero guard and rat and mouse poison as pests increase when nobody collects the rubbish in the streets for months, which I saw firsthand on a visit to Bali once

And plastic plates, cups and spoons and cutlery in case there is not much water to wash dishes. Plus lots of garbage bags.

Plus a radio that runs on batteries to hear the news on, and lots of batteries

AND- you should store it in your house- buy a shed for the backyard or even 2 sheds because who’s to say that the owner of your storage facility wont steal your stuff when the going gets tough (all he has to do is cut the padlock on your storage room or open the door himself with a key) (remember- desperate people do desperate things) and b) who’s to say that the owner of the storage facility is going to let you in or even be open for business when everything collapses? What if he sleeps in? What if he broke and gives up? And how are you going to get to the storage facility if the roads are blocked with rioting people? And how will you pack the stuff into your car without being mobbed by other people at the storage facility who might be starving?

As they used to say in the 1930’s great depression: “If you don’t hold it you don’t own it” That doesn’t just apply to gold and silver and cash, it applies to survival supplies as well. Good luck!!

Thanks for your great newsletter; I love it a lot :-)

Kind Regards, from Christina :-)

Toilet Paper, seed, generator, drinking water, bleach, rolling papers, spices. Of course whiskey and gunpowder must play a prominent role if you have anything the hoards now living off the government may well try to take from you when the merde hits the fan. ALL THIS IS BEING HASTENED BY TRAITORS IN DC WHO CONTINUE TO OVERLOAD OUR SYSTEM WITH DEBT AND MONETIZATION. If we fail to vote enough of the bastards out in November to at least create a little gridlock, we are almost surely doomed, if we are not already doomed by the actions of these Marxists.

If your predictions of doom and gloom come to pass then the things that will be in greatest demand will be comfort and succour to the devastated.

Become an expert in human relations such as helping yourself and others cope with their losses and emotional turmoil would be a good start on a personal and family survival basis.

But if it is not as bad as a total breakdown of the system and just a garden variety depression then the three essential assets of food, clothing and entertainment come into play.

A small farm might be in order but you will need all those bullets you intend to get to keep the crows (of all sizes) off the vegies as they ripen.

Maybe a soup kitchen or two wouldn’t go astray. You could supply it from the vegies you grow and what’s left of the government will be subsidising the place so you will at least get paid.

Maybe the US will take in the China welcome mat and you can open the clothing factories again if you can find anyone who still has the knowledge on how to make sewing machines and clothes.

Luckily Hollywood is still functioning so all you need there is a re-incarnation of likes of Bing Crosby and co along with Madison Ave who got the US out of the last depression. It was not the “Great Roosevelt” I can tell you that for free.

As far as safe assets go I should buy a chain of medical practitioners and chemists (drug stores to you) and I would own the premises too.

Pharmaceuticals will do well for a while pushing drugs and anti-depressants but as I am totally opposed to that industry in principle I would not be recommending it.

I can’t see hording gold being a lot of good as apart from filling teeth it doesn’t do a lot to maintain life. Unless you can use it to buy the soup kitchens, if we really hit the fan who will want it? Will it even be valued in paper currency after all? As people get hungry and desperate and dump their gold and jewellery to keep alive the price of it should crash to next to nothing.

I guess it’s all a matter of degree. As the master of doom and gloom you tell me how bad it’s going to get? I already admire (and envy) your skill as a wordsmith. I would love to read your assay on the subject.

Regards,

Merv.

Until next week!

Dan Denning
Dan Denning examines the geopolitical and economic events that can affect your investments domestically. He raises the questions you need to answer, in order to survive financially in these turbulent times.
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Lehman Sisters
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Great list on what to store for survival in the comimg depression. But what if you want to make money and come out of it wealthy. You need to trade on the blackmarket. We all agree you need gold to buy food and essentials, no black market will accept paper money in a Depression. So what is everyone doing, going into gold to buy food and essentials when things get tough. No money in that. Making money is buying food now to exchange for gold later. My old man (97 years old and still going) traded cans of baked beans… Read more »
Tim
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You all must have read the novel “One Second After” Scared the hell out of me. Here in the USA add ammo (defensive and hunting)to your list.

matt
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It is the same story different day, and it’s the same story in almost every finance article…September is the worst month financially, its going to be a double dip recession etc etc. The, ‘invest your money differently and more cautiously’, strategy is clearly the natural approach, but what about actually saving money where possible, and becoming more knowledgeable on exactly how to save. Why don’t people start looking at their options?! Why not look into financial cash back services or actual fee for service advisors…I think its time to start controlling your funds, saving money especially in times like these… Read more »
Biker
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“I think its time to start controlling your funds, saving money especially in times like these is crucial, yet people don’t know how much they can save, because they are being told that its not a time for saving.” We must be living in unparallel universes, Matt. Australians are saving like never before. Term deposits are increasing: http://www.smh.com.au/business/markets/term-deposits-making-a-comeback-20100906-14xd6.html The catch? Savings are taxed more highly than almost any other a$$et class. Looks good on paper, until the taxman bites… . The exception? First Home Saver Accounts provide a 21.25% _after-tax_ return. Beats property, gold _and_ shares at the moment. Yeah,… Read more »
Biker
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Correction: It is possible to consistently beat 21.25%, sal-packing, with _Super._ ;)

chris
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Is it true that Australia only has 4 weeks supply of food available? If so, that is some scary stuff!!

chris
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During depressions, hungry poor people steal off rich people. So make your house look poor or it might be a target for hungry robbers. So make your front yard look dirty and dumpy. Scatter some old used tires around your front yard. Paint your front fence rusty (you can paint it back nice after the depression – you don’t want to look like an affluent target)Chuck some rubblish around the front yard. Any one looking at your house will think that you are poor and they will leave you alone. Survival is more important than image. Who cares what the… Read more »
chris
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And buy some of those 10kg or 15kg bags of rice to give out to your relatives and friends. You can’t let let all your friends and relatives die, and if you give them just one bag of 15kg rice each, it will keep them and their families alive fir ages, and they will thank you forever.

Biker
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“Is it true that Australia only has 4 weeks supply of food available? If so, that is some scary stuff!!”

Yes, this is true, Chris. And were you aware that somewhere in Australia, a woman is giving birth every eight minutes?
That’s even scarier.
We have to find that woman…
…and stop her…!

Bearamundi
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It is pointless tracking down women and stopping them from giving birth. There is no escape!!

Biker
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O M G. Can’t compete with these intellects… .

By the way, ‘Chris’, Aussies spell ‘tire’ as ‘tyre’. You’ve figured ‘neighbour’ out. If you’re going to post as one of us, you need to forget more of your US schooling… . :D

Dan
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The government taxes anything that moves. So a good savings vehicle is one that doesn’t move, or that the government doesn’t “see” until you change it into cash (if ever). So I agree with Biker that term deposits and the like are not very good because they are based in cash and are completely transparent to the tax system. Maybe if you are specifically waiting to make a big purchase and need to store your cash then sure, but this is not the usual situation. Buying things that last and things you can use is a much better way to… Read more »
Ned S
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“government taxes anything that moves” – They especially like taxing stuff that doesn’t move though Dan. As it is so easy to keep track of. Land is an excellent example.

Biker
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“…buy some of those 10kg or 15kg bags of rice to give out to your relatives and friends. You can’t let let all your friends and relatives die, and if you give them just one bag of 15kg rice each, it will keep them and their families alive fir ages, and they will thank you forever.”

Well, for three weeks, anyway… . :D

God Bless Us All… ;)

Ned S
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Possibly the world as we know it isn’t going to totally end this decade? :

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/news/chinas-may-allow-farms-as-collateral/story-e6frg90o-1225915090727

Well, not our bit of it anyway. :)

Biker
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Holy Guacomole, Neddie! Do you realise what this means?!~ ;)

Biker
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_TWO_ 15 kg bags of rice for the rellies. Six weeks of eternal thanks!!~ :D

Biker
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(They block my serious stuff… and let this sh*t through. It’s a worry! :D )

Ned S
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“Neddie! Do you realise what this means?!” – That 750 million Chinese farmers will now be able to buy seaside holiday homes in Oz Biker? That should keep holiday rental accommodation rates nice and low for us locals when they all scoot back home for the NH growing season.

Biker
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OK… Let’s now test Dan’s recent comment… again… . Post in two minutes, folks!~ :D

bearamundi
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“You can’t let let all your friends and relatives die”

Maybe just an in-law if that is OK?

Ned S
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I had a wife once I wouldn’t have minded letting go Bear – Although I still reckon her ma ‘n pa are probably worth feeding? ;)

chris
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If you think that a 15kg bag of rice will only feed the relatives for 6 weeks, then give them two bags :-) There you go, they now have 3 months to get their acts together.

bearamundi
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“I had a wife once I wouldn’t have minded letting go Bear”

Yes Ned, married men don’t actually live longer, it just feels like it :roll:

In further support, most divorced men I know aren’t in a real hurry to do that again, too busy enjoying a single lifestyle…

chris
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I read a quote recently, it said “Gee this financial crisis is tougher than a divorce, I lost half my fortune and I still have a wife” :-)

Stillgotshoeson
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Comment by chris on 9 September 2010:

I read a quote recently, it said “Gee this financial crisis is tougher than a divorce, I lost half my fortune and I still have a wife”

I’m divorced, I have to pay my ex $1290 a month out of my pay.. To some it sounds a lot but I must confess that it is not too bad, if we were still married I would have to giver her all of it :D

matt
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wow, so from what all are saying, we are in a depression and only have 4 week of food left, dont get married, its too expensive, and there is no point in saving because you dont see the return anyway. So basically, we are living a pointless, prolonged life. Im interested to know what the thoughts actually are on savings. And in response to Biker, i was more leaning to saving by cutting down things that were not essential to our financial cause, and using this money to invest or reinvest in say super. Maybe we should go to the… Read more »
Biker
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“…in response to Biker, i was more leaning to saving by cutting down things that were not essential to our financial cause, and using this money to invest or reinvest in say super.” Sounds rational to me, Matt. We’ve been doing that for over three decades now. It works. My only caution with Super would be to choose a fund which not only has minimal fees, but which allows you to move your money to different asset classes within the fund, online. This has boosted our funds by hundreds of thousands of dollars. Google Earth indicates there really is a… Read more »
Bearamundi
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“wow, so from what all are saying, we are in a depression and only have 4 week of food left, dont get married, its too expensive, and there is no point in saving because you dont see the return anyway. So basically, we are living a pointless, prolonged life.” Glad to see you are connecting the dots Matt. Remember the second album of Spinal Tap? ‘Sh*t-sandwich’ if I recall. You have to move past tribalism, get real dis-illusioned, probably depressed and then start to accept yourself and your lot in life. Once you accept it, the whole thing starts to… Read more »
Biker
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Hope that your depression lifts soon, Bear. Some tips for you, son:
1.) Choose something more nutritious for lunch; 2.) Dump your sh*t in the woods, like other bears; 3.) Base your lifestyle on rock’n’roll… and only rock’n’roll; 4.) Stereotype continually. Blokes in fluoro vests are:
a.) crazy b.) poor. I could go on, but you get my drift.

I’d picked you quite early as a winner in this forum. ;)

Ned S
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“You have to move past tribalism, get real dis-illusioned, probably depressed and then start to accept yourself and your lot in life. Once you accept it, the whole thing starts to change on you and you get a feeling of love for all mankind” – I’m not sure the Yanks are feeling overly inclined to run with that plan just yet Bear? :)

Biker
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Plan?!~ :D

Bearamundi
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flamed again D)

Bearamundi
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:))

Biker
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Chrisped… ! ;)

Bearamundi
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Hey Biker, if you are in the mood the latest Keiser Report No 75 on youtube is a ripper…as black as it gets but I enjoyed it

Biker
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Sorry, Bear, the US situation only interests me as an extreme contrast to that in Australia. Maybe you need a break from it. Can’t be too good for your mental health, mate. Your bleak perception of a Depression in Australia is way off. Last time I looked, things seemed pretty good: 5.1% unemployment, good wages, rising oz buck, banks all in good shape, reasonable interest rates, largest homes in the world. We’re not even experiencing a recession, but apparently we have clowns trashing their front yards and stashing rice in backyard sheds… . Words fail me… . I’m here in… Read more »
Bearamundi
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Well you are right again I guess and I’m sure most here would agree with you too. I still find US/world shenanigans enlightening (esp the disconnect between media and bloggers) but yeah, it is losing its appeal. I don’t think Aussie is headed for a Depression as the dollar is too strong (according to shadowstats et al). I do think that housing prices will correct, but I see that as a good thing. The market should determine price, rather than govt manipulation (which you and others have benefited from enormously but which is unsustainable). I doubt that Australia is different.… Read more »
Bearamundi
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Feeling for ya stillgotshoeson!! Over $300 a week…

Biker
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“Feeling for ya stillgotshoeson!! Over $300 a week… ” And the _house._ Don’t forget the house… ! :( ‘ ‘ ‘ ‘
bearamundi
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Trying to think of a simple strategy Biker. The essential ingredient to independence is self-control IMO. I look around and it usually sheets back to this one quality which towers above other qualities for me.

Biker
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You know, I think it’s _information._

All the self-control in the world won’t conjure up a brass razoo if you don’t know what you’re doing… . ;)

Ned S
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Information combined with self control – Yep, I reckon you blokes are getting a handle on it. Chuck in some hard work and we could be beginning to see the basis of a plan? Wonder what Lachlan and Dan and Don and Annie and Ross and Shoes reckon?

Stillgotshoeson
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Comment by Ned S on 9 September 2010: Information combined with self control – Yep, I reckon you blokes are getting a handle on it. Chuck in some hard work and we could be beginning to see the basis of a plan? Wonder what Lachlan and Dan and Don and Annie and Ross and Shoes reckon? I would add direction.. Work out what you want from life to work out what your needs will be.. If you think you will be happy being on the dole and smokn’ the green grass of home in a humpie near Byron Bay then… Read more »
Ned S
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DAMN! – Forgot Greg. No longer with us here but definitely NOT a party to be omitted! I’d ask for Steve’s thoughts too but suspect that if he can buy a $700K house within 30 minutes commute of Sydney Airport for $350K he’ll be happy. And will simply nag if he’s told those days could be gone forever so he can’t?

Biker
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Information: $109 billion worth of projects about to launch in WA in 2011.
That excludes anything the Two Amigos may be inclined to wangle for WA regions… . :D

bearamundi
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smokn’, you got me thinking Shoes….Hey, but that’s _illegal_ in God’s own. Ah, dreaming of India again where da ganga is legal to Worship God Shiva. Too much _information_, no self-control, confusion -ya damned if you do and damned if ya don’t, going crazier…system abort, system abort On the info front, I try to limit expenses as you have paid tax on that money which makes it more precious. What about Aussie designed and made Silver Batts (Australian Reflective Insulation)? Only discovered them last night on Net. These nifty things totally eliminate heat gain from the roof. They have an… Read more »
Biker
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“…you have paid tax on that money…”

I have? But I get it _all_ back… . Information IS money.

bearamundi
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Some of us don’t want to ignore our larger social obligations. You’ve sold out Biker, get back to your roots man, your ROOTS!!

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