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		<title>By: Coffee Addict</title>
		<link>http://www.dailyreckoning.com.au/the-actual-money-supply/2009/06/18/comment-page-1/#comment-85880</link>
		<dc:creator>Coffee Addict</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 06:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Andrew&#039;s statement:

&quot;Monetary inflation is currently mitigating the price declines we are witnessing, meaning those prices that are declining would have declined much more were it not for the inflation  ....&quot;   Indeed I posted the same  argument on this site about 6 months ago.  At the time I was toying with the ideal we should be talking about the the momentum of money rather than its velocy .

The M&#039;s are in my view just derived indicators that may be input as one variable along with others in economic formula. Allan Greenspan correctly  implyies that  the Ms are nebulus and imperfect.  The usefulness of any (performance) indicator depends on their use AND the validity of the overarching analysis. Mr  Greenspan is pointing to REALITY that in the current circumstances, the M&#039; measures, by themselves should NOT by themselves be used as depictions of economic momentum.

Will a debasement of the US currency will also debase the US economy to the same degree?  The previous view was that all the debts could be inflated away, household income and asset prices (in debtor countries) would fall to sustainable levels and all would be well.  What the pundits did not count on (and what Greenspan may be alluding to) is the severe impact of a dollar debasement on creditor countries and commodity prices AND the ripple back effect this will have on the US and Australia. 

At the moment I&#039;m not that bullish about anything.  I&#039;m just hedging my super (in cash option) against some energy and gold speculatives with no assurance that such a hedge will work.

Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Andrew's statement:</p>
<p>"Monetary inflation is currently mitigating the price declines we are witnessing, meaning those prices that are declining would have declined much more were it not for the inflation  ...."   Indeed I posted the same  argument on this site about 6 months ago.  At the time I was toying with the ideal we should be talking about the the momentum of money rather than its velocy .</p>
<p>The M's are in my view just derived indicators that may be input as one variable along with others in economic formula. Allan Greenspan correctly  implyies that  the Ms are nebulus and imperfect.  The usefulness of any (performance) indicator depends on their use AND the validity of the overarching analysis. Mr  Greenspan is pointing to REALITY that in the current circumstances, the M' measures, by themselves should NOT by themselves be used as depictions of economic momentum.</p>
<p>Will a debasement of the US currency will also debase the US economy to the same degree?  The previous view was that all the debts could be inflated away, household income and asset prices (in debtor countries) would fall to sustainable levels and all would be well.  What the pundits did not count on (and what Greenspan may be alluding to) is the severe impact of a dollar debasement on creditor countries and commodity prices AND the ripple back effect this will have on the US and Australia. </p>
<p>At the moment I'm not that bullish about anything.  I'm just hedging my super (in cash option) against some energy and gold speculatives with no assurance that such a hedge will work.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Carmody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean Carmody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 14:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You seem to have shifted the goalposts here! You criticize Greenspan for not knowing how to measure &quot;money&quot; and then state you can measure &quot;actual money supply&quot;, without actually saying how you did so and why your measure is any better than M1, M2, MZM or any of the previous attempts. You also say that inflation = change in money supply but rather than testing that claim to see if prices do actually move in line with changes in your &quot;actual money supply&quot;, you simply redefine inflation to be changes in &quot;actual money supply&quot;! Hey presto, QED. For most people, inflation means the amount by prices change on the things they buy, not changes in some mysterious aggregate you, the Austrian school or anyone else comes up with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You seem to have shifted the goalposts here! You criticize Greenspan for not knowing how to measure "money" and then state you can measure "actual money supply", without actually saying how you did so and why your measure is any better than M1, M2, MZM or any of the previous attempts. You also say that inflation = change in money supply but rather than testing that claim to see if prices do actually move in line with changes in your "actual money supply", you simply redefine inflation to be changes in "actual money supply"! Hey presto, QED. For most people, inflation means the amount by prices change on the things they buy, not changes in some mysterious aggregate you, the Austrian school or anyone else comes up with.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Bain</title>
		<link>http://www.dailyreckoning.com.au/the-actual-money-supply/2009/06/18/comment-page-1/#comment-84895</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Bain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;By definition, all prices are indeed the ratio of exchange of a good for money&quot;

If only. 
When people buy and sell money, debt, etc... I see it as yet another ponzi scheme. Compund interest is another ponzi scheme.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"By definition, all prices are indeed the ratio of exchange of a good for money"</p>
<p>If only.<br />
When people buy and sell money, debt, etc... I see it as yet another ponzi scheme. Compund interest is another ponzi scheme.</p>
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